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GCWhru07-23 11:38 AMGuys,

I think we have talked and analyzed enough about how many visas available for August and September and pretty much arrived at conclusion that at the minimum 20K visas available. (Thanks to vdlrao).


Now we should talk about capability of USCIS and its processing speed? What is the normal approval rate with USCIS's regular processing. Also we heard that USCIS recruited many people, Do we suppose to see any improvement in processing. Do we think all the 20K visas will be used within 2 months?


If USCIS is going to approve only 5K visas over next 2 months, there is no point in talking how many visas left.

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yogi1322907-08 03:10 PMI have filled my Green card in Eb3 category. I am planning to now file it in Eb2 Category, but want to retain my Eb3 Priority date (which is 2005) . Please let me know:

1) How does it affect my current Green card process in case of Rejection of New ( Eb2) or Query on it( RFE).

2) If a different employer files my green card in EB2 category, at what stage will I have to join this new employer. I am planning to let my new (future) employer file GC in Eb2 while I continue working for my old employee. I will then join the new employer after getting the green card. Is this possible? I want this EB2 case to have the same priority date as EB3.

3) I Have Already filled 485 in Eb3 category , Do I have to file I485 in Eb2 Again or my Previous Eb3 485 Transfered to this New Eb2 Category

4) If I have to file New I485 in Eb2 in that case what happened to My Eb3 485

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unitednations02-17 11:47 AMThis argument does not have much merit. You are confusing diversity with skills - if those friends, cousins etc. meet the job requirements, there is no issue in hiring them for open positions. You are asking us to believe that a country that does not believe in affirmative action in the job market and depends on voluntary action by employers to enhance diversity cares about any of this when it comes to immigration.

No, the intention behind the 7% limit is to protect levels of European immigration and address racist fears of immigration from the 3rd world. This was also the intent behind the diversity lottery - notice the consternation that the diverisity lottery is primarily benefitting non-Europeans.


If you go to the earliest visa bulletins posted on department of state web-site; you will see that Dominican Republic EB3 was retrogressed at one point. Think about that. Dominican Republic; how small is that country. Reason it was retrogressed is probably everyone was getting everyone of their relatives, etc., to come to USA through employment base. The country quota in my mind is designed to prevent such abuses of people making an end run and designing systems to get people from certain countries here.

There is a department of labor precedent court case where they can deny a labor if you are sponsoring a relative or a "close friend". The premise being that if there is a close relationship then the job cannot be truly open to Americans. I have seen USCIS also use this in a case where they figured out that CEO of the company was sponsoring his brother through employment base. This particular case, really opened up my eyes to how EB immigration was working and I started to see things a little bit better from USCIS point of view. Up to this point I thought everyone who was getting EB greencard or H-1b was highly specialized and it was a very difficult thing to do. Company I worked with had a decent number of people on H-1b at the entry level. It was all nationalities and they were from F-1. However,when it came time to sponsor them for greencard, they wouldn't do it because they couldn't satify themselves that no American was available for the job.

In this past year, I have seen USCIS get really, really difficult with h-1b's and greencards. The backlog labors are also getting a tough time. USCIS, department of state, backlog reduction center is treating the consulting companies as temporary staffing companies. There is a whole bunch of requriements that these various agencies are setting and many companies are withdrawing or deciding to not respond to these queries. When this starts happening behind the scenes then it doesn't bode well for "friendly" type immigration policies.

Last year; when cybersoftech situation happened where he filed 350 I-140's, falsified labors; falsified his tax returns, etc., and all the cases were denied or revoked; many of the candidates thought they had been cheated and that USCIS/senators/congressmen were going to make accomodations for them. Nothing like this happened; they were calling themselves "victims" and thought they should get honorary greencard because of what they had been through.


From USCIS/DOL point of view it gave them a case study of the manipulations of the system and how everything worked. Now; they are starting to hold companies to a very high standard and looking for these types of tendenices/trends. If a company has too many H-1b's filed, too many I-140's then they are looking at it as if the company is set up for immigration purpose.

One thing that people shouldn't lose sight of is that a company does not need to sponsor you for a greencard. They could fire you or lay you off at any time. All they need to do is buy you a plane ticket home. All these arguments that people have about spouse not being able to work, career stagnation, etc., would still be arguments if you stayed here on H-1b for six years. if company wasn't going to sponsor you for greencard then these arguments would still apply that you are using. However, would anyone listen if a company didn't want to sponsor you. Why is this relevant? A company is sponsoring you but they are not very interested in lobbying for you. If a company wants you on a permanent basis but it is taking too long then you would think they would lobby for you. They are the petitioner.

Now; companies want more H-1b's. in fact they really don't want it an increase. What is happening is that companies are filing H-1b's six months in advance for jobs they do not have. Ask people who go for visa stamping initially, how difficult it is for company to get them a visa without bull------- about it.

You have the traditional L-1 companies who are filing h-1b's and L-1's because of the no body shopping rule. Depending on the project, bill rates, etc., they determine whether a person will come on h-1 or l-1. it is like they are reserving the right ahead of time depending on their needs. The traditional American company can only get fresh quota cases if they have people on OPT working there. However, if they find a candidate sometime in October they cannot file an H-1b for them. So what is the solution? Increase the cap or make it extremely difficult to get H-1b visa approved and teach everyone a lesson.

This is not as simple as everyone may think it is. There are a lot of things happening behind the scense where there is a "tightening" of approvals and visas.

Now; some people may not like this posting. However; you need to have as much information as possible in order to strategize and talk to various decision makers. Some of them might sit there and listen to you but then when they start studying the situation they might come to know what I have posted here. if/when quota increases, it will probably be because when the intial 140,000 was set; the economy was at a different stage, population was at a different stage. The increase would probably just follow market realities (population is more then what it was when 140,000 was set and we need to adjust it accordingly).



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gc4me03-29 09:38 PMLooks like murthy.com is correct after all. Already filled I-140 with sub LC will not be affected.
Read this text.
*Substitution--Substitution of alien beneficiaries will be
prohibited as of the effective date of a final rule resulting from this
NPRM and that prohibition will apply to all pending permanent labor
certification applications and to approved certifications not yet filed
with DHS, whether the application was filed under the prior or current
regulation. This regulatory change would not affect substitutions
approved prior to the final rule's effective date.

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hopefulgc02-13 07:39 PMthis is an out of the box thinking .. deserves consideration.

Why should we give big bucks to big names? Instead we can pay 50% to 75% of that to a bunch of fresh law school grads from Harvard or some other top law school and see what they can do?
This way we would help young talent and also give them a platform to get their name in the front and at the same time we are not under cutting on their fees. Saving money but cutting unnecessary cost is the name of the game.

Any thoughs or counter arguments?



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h1techSlave12-09 10:14 AM" members are more interested in how to get their maid to US, which airline to fly etc etc .." and whether they should purchase a home or not. Members spend all their time in heated arguments for and against purchasing a home. pinto, are you familiar with any such members in this forum? ;););)


Thanks h1b ...thanks everyone else for the overwhelming support. actually it seems that without core leadership / directions ..IV is fast becoming just like a chat forum or as Indian ambassador would have put -- a headless chicken.
members are more interested in how to get their maid to US, which airline to fly etc etc ..
I guess time for rest of us to lay back ...and see what fate has in store without worrying much :D

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chi_shark09-23 10:36 AMhi! fantastic idea... this will exclude me if this legislation is for primary home only. but if includes any home, i am willing to buy one more home...

in any case, i would suggest that this content be edited and the housing problem and our solution to it be brought closer together and upwards in the content... the IV community's pain can be sent downwards...

great stuff... i will write to people...

As completely unrelated these two issues are (from a law maker's perspective) on a normal day, these are possibly those times when each of these issues can help the other.

IV has been discussing about the possibility of one for two solution (partial). The idea is to request congress to exempt EB applicants & their dependents from numerical limits of the Immigrant visas, if they buy a home. It is my belief that market sentiment is the most important thing in any financial market(s) and the housing prospects look pretty bleak. There are lot of members in the EB community that have NOT bought their own home, even though they could afford one because of the uncertainty with EB GC. IV's idea is to bridge the financial committees and judiciary committees in the House/Senate and see if corresponding Chairman/Ranking members are willing to listen. Things are moving so fast with the 700bn USD bail out plan and we will NOT have time to do things the normal way, through our counsel. We have to present this idea to the corresponding staff members of key members of congress (see list below) and see if this gets traction now or going forward.

Please do not bring EB-5 discussion/comparison here. The proposed partial solution is different from EB-5 in that EB-5 investors invest money and we are investing in our future with a genuine intention of making USA our permanent home.


If you already have a home, thats fine. Any such legislation will reduce the wait times in EB categories and we need housing markets to rebound for a safer economy before the ripple effects are felt every where.

Who to write to

Staff members(Chief of Staff, Legislative LA, Financial LA, Legislative Director) of Chairman/Ranking members of House/Senate Judiciary committee & Finance/Banking committee, Staff members of your representative and your senators. Please find staff members of the committees in the spreadsheet (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pptN-jEpAiyd3snslhPjBfw).

You can find your representative & senator staff members on this website (http://www.outsourcecongress.org/outsource/congress/schstaffers.html).

Please use valid email addresses and NOT fictitious/junk mail. It undermines the whole purpose and our emails will be flagged by mail scanners / spam checkers as some thing similar to famous Nigeria bank account scams.


Email Subject: Proposal to alleviate current US Housing/economic crisis

Content/Message

SUMMARY

This proposal alleviates the current US economic crisis, by motivating the US high skilled, legal immigrant workers to purchase homes. The size of this immigrant population is approximately 800,000 individuals. This effort if successful would inject up to US$ 20Billion approximately into the economy (approximately US$ 100 Billion in houses sold across the country) , while at the same time directing this money into the root cause of the economic crisis � the illiquidity of the national housing market. The above calculation is done
assuming a median US home price of $212,400 and buyers making a down-payment of 20% of the cost of the home. Roughly estimating 400,000 buyers.

BACKGROUND

Undoubtedly, we are all devastated by the shake up on Wall Street in the past 15 days. Experts agree that the underpinning problem is the housing crisis caused by sub-prime mortgage loans. Many of us, who cannot afford our monthly mortgage payments are losing homes and putting them up for sale and foreclosure, which further adds to the crisis. At the same time, most of the Employment-based (EB) immigrant community would like to purchase homes and make the United States a permanent home for their families. These EB immigrants however, are living in a state of limbo, mostly in rental apartments because of the delays and uncertainties involved with the EB immigration procedure. The wait times in EB categories are exacerbated by the delays in processing by USCIS, even though eligible applicants have filed for Permanent Residency also known as Adjustment of Status. Such processing delays have resulted in the wastage of 218,000 immigrant visa numbers (Page 52 of USCIS Ombudsman Annual report 2007). The current Department of State visa bulletin shows 7+ years of wait times in certain categories. We strongly believe that legislation can be worked out in such a way that the housing markets all over the country can move towards recovery, while at the same time motivating the Green Card applicants to catalyze this recovery.

It should be noted that this proposal by no means brings more immigrant workers into the US. The workers in the EB, skilled category are already present in the US, doing skilled jobs that no US worker is available to do. They are part of the long queue of backlogged cases that USICIS will eventually process; however, this wait can take years and in that case could not be used as a tool to minimize the course of the current economic crisis.

SOLUTION

Congress can pass legislation that exempts EB green card applicants and their dependents from the numerical limits of visa numbers, provided applicant(s) have bought a home making 20% down payment on the sale price of the home, for a time period deemed necessary by the congress.


How can Employment based Immigrants help alleviate the housing problem?

(1) Employment based immigrants are highly skilled and are employed in occupations such as Software, IT, Health care, Energy, Finance, Education and Research & Development across the United States.

(2) Average income of these individuals/households is around 65,000/130,000 USD.

(3) All these Employment based immigrants have gone through Department of Labor�s recruiting process, which certifies that there is no willing, able and qualified US Citizen to do the job.

(4) Most of the Employment based immigrants have excellent credit history and good source of income to make the payments needed for their home mortgage.

(5) By requiring a 20% down payment from this group of buyers, Congress can directly channel this money to where it is need most � at the banks.

(6) Employment based green card applicants have been living in the United States for 6-8 years. Many of them have US graduate degrees in their fields of expertise. These applicants are well versed with the American culture and will not change the cultural landscape.

(7) Financial burden on US government and treasury will be reduced drastically if the glut of houses in the market decreases.


As a member of the community that wants to make the US its permanent home, I want to contribute to a solution that helps USA and US during these tough times. I sincerely believe that the 30 year commitment on mortgages by Employment based immigrants in the housing market, backed by solid, risk free mortgages can turn the down ward spiral in the housing market into a upward spiral.

END OF CONTENT

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krishna.ahd02-14 04:11 PMHi Unitednations
I am reading your current and past posts recently.
Seems like you have enough information ( may be insider info also) regarding Retro and Gc process.
What is the practical solution short term and long term , Not what we like to have , i am looking for what should be ??
Out of Goal from IV , what is practically achievable ??

Thanks in advance for your comments



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ganguteli05-29 12:48 AMIf you guys had a chance of getting substitute labor today you will try to take it at any cost. But you will not want to contribute $25 to IV. If you had a chance of getting a greencard via L1A route you will do it. Just because you cannot get a substitute labor or L1A, you are saying sour grapes.

This is a bitter truth that we do not like to hear but each will do if they get a chance. Sub labor was legal when it was there and L1A route is also legal today. It is for USCIS to decide if there is a loophole. Stop behaving like an anti-immigrant. Just because you are not able to get this privilege does not mean others cannot try. If you want to try, try to get more visas for everyone rather than blocking people.

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rkm04-28 09:36 PMGood News ...

04/28/2007: Labor Certification Substitution Elimination Final Rule Approved by OMB 04/27/2007

The OMB approved this final rule. As soon as this rule is released, all those certified labor certification cases which have yet to be filed for substitution I-140 will be no good for substitution.



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cinqsit01-14 01:51 PMV true.

Folks, the memo clearly empowers USCIS to crack down on consulting firms which don't have any in-house infrastructure (other than contractors) to execute projects.
H1B is misused for a long time now by these firms and it was high time they put the screws on these "job shops" as they call it. Unfortunately some talented workers will get impacted.
But if they are talented they will find opportunities elsewhere. Trust me on that. And better opportunities.

Nathan is exactly right. These firms have created a mess by bending rules everywhere.

Don't start speculating that USCIS is trying to throw out all immigrants from this country. I'm surprised that folks don't take a proper view of the situation (yeah..bring the reds on and call me an anti-immigrant).


I agree with a1b2c3.

USCIS is going after these "job-shops" nowhere do they have a blanket policy written down to stop all H1-B's or greencards.

Please dont get riled up and think that its going to affect your greencards etc too.

Actually if you have been following these forums, last two years have been tough for small consulting companies to get renewals/new H1's approved anyways. They were asking for client letter and denying renewals left and right. Some
were getting H1's denied saying the company office space is too small to fit 100 employees, your product/business plan seems to have been copy-pasted from online sources and what not. Please browse through H1 denied threads on this forums.

I know its harsh on the employees but they will have to find employment with direct vendors.

Contracting is a way-of-life for some big financial/insurance companies (if you are from NYC area you will know) its not going away nor is need for H1B's going away.

USCIS is simply laying down the rules on paper (or in this memo) for what it has already been practicing for more than 2 years now with respect to H1B processing.

I know its harsh on some employees who will be affected but you will soon realize that
you will find better paying jobs/contracts. If there is a need and you are good at what ou do you are going to land up a job/contract no matter what even when you are on H1.

These "job-shop" companies will be going away (good riddance) not you.
You will still find work you will still find contracts with better pay

If you are working on a contract directly for direct vendor isnt that much better than being 3-4 "layers" of these middleman "job-shop" companies who each take
a significant cut out of your share?

cinqsit

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Keeme03-31 10:05 AMKancha Ilaya(Sonia appointed ) is being allowed by the Indian Government to lobby with the UN and US Congress so that caste discrimination in India is taken-up by these bodies. (Indians on their own have come a long way in reducing these caste discrimination but alas these people won't want that dying)It shouldn't be any surprise if we see bunch of International articles on India's disgusting caste issues soon.

Rahul Gandhi/Govt of India invites British politician to Amethi on poverty tourism.Putting it in their own words they were trying to show this foreign minister real India (meaning 'sinking India not shining India' or may be they were trying to tell this British guy look we have managed to keep the country at the same state you left it , if anything we took it to another low level).Amethi has been a constituency represented by that family for generations in Priyanka's words. Forget about country they didn't do much good to their own constituency .

This British guy before he left the country said that Mumbai attacks could have happened because India didn't hand over Kashmir to Pak.He also gave a free although unasked advice ,if such future attacks are not to happen India should reconsider it's stance on Kashmir.

British media was surprised to see that Rahul Gandhi touted as future PM by the party and Indian media with equal excitement didn't want to comment on foreign affairs.Mumbai issue or anything else.

Now every country has it's share of problems..be it poverty or something else.Can you imagine U.S politician inviting French/German politician to view America's worst and media giving it huge coverage?Just imagine what would happen then.

There are 2 ways you have to be in Indian politics. Bottom-to-top and Top-to-bottom. Sanjay Dutt, Murli Devra's son, Rajesh Pilot's son, MadhavRao SIndhia's son are some good example of Top-to-bottom. They can be MPs and MLAs but again can't go in heart of general public. Many of them would have short tem political life. Mamta Benergee, Mayavati, Mulayam, lalu, Narendra Modi, Sharad Yadav and many others are example of bottom-to-top.

Rahul Gandhi doesn't want to be labeled as top-to-bottom. It won't last long.



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fide_champ08-17 01:50 PMI agree with all of you that this is not worth talking. Instead channelize your efforts in supporting organization to contact lawmakers and make advocacy efforts.

How is the other one better than this topic?



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sodh03-19 12:42 PMwhy do you think labor substitution would increase the backlog?
My company cancelled my labor process the day I resigned, tell me which big reputed company responded to a 45 day letter even when the candidate was not working with them, so that leaves us with companies like Cybersoft who filed multiple I-140 on one labor approval or there are people who are running parallel processes just to be safe and they are buying the sub. labor,so now even if the companies intention's are good,filling I-140 multiple times creates backlog in the service centers and then it is up to your fate if your file is picked up in the numerical order, in concurrent filling it was a race who got the the GC first the original beneficiary or the person who paid price for the same labor. Who are the people opposing substitution ban or the 45 day rule if you find them you will get your answers.

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Rb_newsletter08-15 03:51 PMWhat did the officer do wrong if the name matched.
Do you know there is a CNN reporter who is a white guy and his name matched with some name on the security check list and the guy was harassed multiple times on different airports within USA.
If a known person in USA can get such treatment, SRK IS NOTHING.
SRK Fans think the is someone special!

Your argument sounds like "Yes we do harass our own people here. So there is nothing wrong in harassing other country people"



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BharatPremi12-14 02:48 PMYes BP, in that case Britain too will be oversubscribed just like IN,CH,MXa and PH.
7% ceiling applies to all the countries not just the ones that happen to be oversubscribed now.

So that interprets to "7% limit for every country" - seems to be "Equality"



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syendu101-14 04:32 PMMr Syendu after replying to all abusers my mind has pretty much been fogged up. Contrary to oipinion i am also working while blogging so there is the added pressure.

So now having read through your post (I appreciate no abuses) i get the jist of what you are saying so forgive me if i do not reply line by line so here is my answer

EB1/EB2/EB3 rule was never disputed by me. That is law and will never chaange. i dont like it but i will go with what is the law.

Yes i will NOT convert to EB2 because i have already spent time and energy for the first GC app. (In case any abuser is wondering the gc was paid by company so it is not the lack of funds or lack of companies willing to file for EB2 for me which is stopping me). Sure people are converting and all the best to them, but my point is what about people who cannot convert. Maybe someone has got 2 kids and single earner and he does not have the time or money to do a masters. Maybe some one is so tired working a job which is busting his or her ass off and has no energy to do that. If we think about it there are a whole lot of reasons why a person cannot do a masters. And to that complexities there are very few companies which are willing to sponser EB2 nowadays

So my plain speak is that just because every member in IV has a masters and is in EB2 or can do masters and convert from EB3 to EB2 does not mean that the majority of people out there can do the same so IV members giving advises like below ar enot only impracticle but also broder on hig handedness. Their contention is that we did it why can you not. If you cannot you must be a low skilled person who has scrapped through into the country and deserves to wait a long time for a visa.

Please remember that EB2 or EB3 is not a straighjacket and theri are people in both the groups who do not belong there and belong in the other group


Just for information i do have a masters

Visa recapture and not counting the dependents will help the immigration community only if it happens. I see nothing on the horizon which says that it will happen. As another iV member pointed out no immigration friendly bill has come for debate in the last 4 years and that is with a democratic majority which is immigration friendly as some IV members like to point out. So with such a situation piece meal efforts must be made but piece meal efforst should be directed to the heavily retorgressed community because teh big bills if and hwne they happen will fololow teh regular rule anyway

And finally i would like to say you have been most polite and respectfull and i am honoured to discuss thiongs with you

JAI HIND

well, the people who are in eb3 and cannot do anything about it, for reasons that you quoted, i agree, it is a pity. but, you know what, "life is not fair".

it is a good thing u worry about others, and want to help them. however, when u look at those bills you mentioned and none getting passed. yes, it may look like a waste to do anything. however, we need to keep trying. with the limited resources we have, i think we should focus on "things/bills/issues" the IMPACT most people. doing something only for eb3 or eb2, in my opinion, would be even more difficult, given the progress legal immigration has made in this country. so, may be, u cud help in getting the things done that impact more people.

and it is ur decision not to go eb2 (even, with the resources you mentioned). have to admit, thats strange. may be u r like me, who is not obsessed with a gc. however, we live in a society, in a system (however flawed it may be), and we all try to live by those rules, try to use opportunities that are available legally and make our lives, a little better.

i came to this country in 1999, i have a MS, PHD from a reputed Comp Sci program. Many people who (still) dont know much about Computer Sci. came into the dept, got their MS and have been very successful, making tons of money. i am a guy whose bs, ms and phd is in Comp Sci. i think u will find may 2 or 3 guz out of may 10, who have a degree in CS, particularly in the undergrad. i used to be very mad at all the electrical, mechanical etc guz getting software jobs. i used to hate almost all software professionals coz i thought i had to work very had for my ranks, on my gpa and on my degrees and see there are people who are making as much as i do, with none of that. slowly, but surely, i have come to terms that "life is not fair" and then, what if fellow human beings can get good jobs, whats wrong with that?? is how i started to see it, (as long as they are good enough).

what i am trying to say is please think in a global scale and help solve issues which can impact the MOST number of people and not just a minority. coz, the exceptions u stated, will be there for any issue.

Jai Hind



gc_lover06-27 03:43 PMI am sorry to say that all EB-3 and EB-2 dates have gone back to 2001. Please check DOS site.















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gimmeacard08-02 01:07 AMAny ways, it is not going to stop me from having fun here. Any body with more interested stories to keep people informed and entertained till they get gc. Too much predicting would kill the mood. To be motivated u need some fun too.


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